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But for gigging, if you're not bringing a laptop, no, there's no clonewheel emulation in a Motif. Yes, it ships with the organ plug-in, which is how they address the lack of clonweheel functionality in the Motif itself. I've also been told the B's Knee's sound set isn't too bad either. As people have said, B3 sounds are it's real weakness, which I deal with using my XK-1c. Although it can't sample on its own, you can load your own samples into it.
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+1000%!!! My MOXF8 (which has essentially the same sound engine as the Motif XF) can do analog sounds really well. This would make a nice module to add organ sounds midied up to a MK, but not 499 dollars This YC rotor, CV, and percussion sounds better from what demos I hear. Yamahas rotary sim has been, to me anyway, their weak point, along with embedding percussion into the sampled wave. For everything else, what more do you need? The point of my post is really to question what exactly are people missing in the Motif XF? Can't it do pretty much everything you want it to do? Sure, it's not an analog synth but there are plenty of those to chose from on the market and the analog emulations are very good. Then again I grew up with Yamaha synths and learned to program a DX7. I don't think the interface is all that cumbersome. Doesn't it ship with an organ plug-in, too (which most likely is the basis for the reFace YC?) As it becomes increasingly practical to get your sounds out of an iPad or a Win tablet, simplicity/ergonomics/interface is where hardware keeps its edge.ĪFAIK, the Motif has plenty of YC organs in it. In the Motif line, Yamaha has had arguably the best sampled sounds of anyone, but in a cumbersome interface. You know, I think that's a notable contrast. but you can't get even a YC quality organ out of it. I'm wondering how many people here have completely maxed out all the features and possibilities of the Motif XF line? The YC looks like a reasonable value (at least there's virtually no competition), and if the CP electric piano sounds are truly CP4 quality, that could be a good value as well (even just as a module to run from an existing board with more keys). 37 keys is barely adequate for "synth" (though at least some of the "classic" instruments Yamaha is referencing actually had only 37 keys) - but it's definitely less than I'd want for organ (YC) and entirely ridiculous for piano (CP).Īll that said, even though the CS is the one where 37 keys is least restrictive, I think the CS may be a tough sell against other $499 synths. Though I really think the Reface should have had 49 keys (maybe 44-45 as a bare minimum). And at least all of these have 37 keys which, as minimal as it is, is far more useful than the 25-key boards that are out there (some of them also at $499). MicroKorg XL+ is $499, though, as is Roland JD-Xi. But we're not Yamaha's target market for the Reface.ġ)Microkorg is $399. They look like fun little things, and might be cool songwriting tools or the like. Some of us here might buy one, and there's no shame in that. There will be lots of guitar players in indie rock bands who will devote 10-25% of their onstage time playing keyboards, and they will most likely be playing a Reface model. The "indie" band scene is still strong, in terms of the live music scene (I don't care for that genre myself, but I can't deny its popularity). A keyboard for tiny cofeehouses that don't have room for a 61-keyer, much less an 88, on an X-stand. Some of you here, even us "serious" players, might have even bought one.īasically, the Reface is Yamaha's (albeit slightly late-to-the-party) answer to the MicroKorg. They also had nice sounds, but also mini-keys. Virtually every indie-rock band had one in their rig. Remember this thing that came out a few years ago? And I don't mean to put that out in a snarky, pejorative, elitist way. The Reface line wasn't meant for people like us. Well relax, the Reface line is not meant for us.īy "Us," I mean the "serious" keyboard player - those of us who enjoy either or all of the stage piano realm, the vintage keyboard realm, the powerhouse workstation realm, the full-rig-gigging realm, the serious studio cat realm. The consensus seems to be mixed: The line seems to sport great sounds, and some of us might want them, but.those itty-bitty keys! This past week, the big talk in the keyboard world was Yamaha's new Reface line of keyboards, which has piqued our interest through viral teasers and hype.